Podcast Episodes

  • An introduction to the PBCC community and the trail of trauma it has left behind. We begin to dive into the fears of leaving and how the world outside is not what we were told it was.

  • Richard Marsh takes us through his role in the Klondike Papers and leads us into a heated discussion on politics and the PBCC. The PBCC will not allow its members to vote, and claim to have no interest in politics. Indeed, as a registered charity, they cannot legally engage in political campaigns. We peel back the veneer of lies to show how the PBCC has become by far the most influential cult in Canadian politics, using its members to give targeted donations to political causes on demand, and how they were intimately connected with Stephen Harper's election campaigns. We also give you a heads up on Jesse Brown's new podcast series "Ratf*cker" which will be a fruitful romp through the legendary "Klondike papers" leading on to the even darker crimes committed in Maple Creek.

  • Pam Danylchuk dives in on what it was like to leave the cult and their misogynistic policies of the PBCC. She describes the painful memories of how the cult publicly made fun of her father for a serious medical condition. We talk about religious trauma and the abuse that happens, their lack of sexual education and how much its needed to correct their issues. Cheryl gives us more insight into what happened to her as we bond over shared traumas. The best part is the joy Lane and Pam exude of finding each other.

  • We dive in with Carman Drever to discuss the abuse she witnessed inside the PBCC at Maple Creek. After being driven out of town Carman began to see how horifying the abuse in Maple Creek really was. She takes us inside the journey of exposing the abuse inflicted by the cult and the aknowledgement she received. John Hales' response will shock you. What did he do for Maple Creek?

  • ***This podcast contains discussions about sexual abuse. Viewer and listener discretion is advised.***

    Lara invites us into her harrowing story while inside the PBCC. She recounts how she tried to get help regarding her abuse and how she was even sent to Maple Creek! At the time Lara’s abuse was happening there were 23 members and of those there are potentially 10 children as victims of sexual abuse. She takes us through what it was like to be a female within the church and how "women were slaves". Her heart wrenching story on the day she left, brought us all to tears as we all knew of the pain she described. We dive into the leaders promise of the rapture and the lies covered up during a split in the 60's called Aberdeen. Could this have been the open door for abuse to be so widely accepted? Cheryl also gives us an update on the investigation in Maple Creek.

  • ***This episode contains discussions about suicide. Viewer and listener discretion is advised.***

    Walk with us as our special guest Christine describes her experience working for a multitude of different PBCC companies. Her astute observation of the disgusting treatment of women- often treated as second class citizens, or as lesser humans is so spot-on with what so many of us who have left the PBCC have described. Christine was never a PBCC member so it is enlightening to hear her describe the abundant use of alcohol by very young children, the attitude of young PBCC men in the workplace and the huge pay discrimination between members & nonmembers. Not a shock to ex-members of this cult but a huge shock to those who have never had this first hand experience.

  • This week we respond to a viewers request to explain how we got out and what it was like in the real world for each of us. We reminisce on what it was like when we first left and how we created our new social circles. We take a peek inside Lane's documentary from 2015 as he tries to join one of their meetings and is denied access. Listeners get to hear how the elders talk to those of us that leave. We walk down memory lane since leaving and in a much lighter conversation, we relish in the blessings we've claimed since leaving and the freedom we feel now.

  • We sit down with another PBCC sexual abuse survivor who takes us along her horrific abuse. At age 8, Beth was placed with another family when her parents were confined. What she witnessed and endured left us speechless. She dives into the mistreatment of woman and how it keeps being accepted generation after generation. Will the PBCC ever realize the amount of abuse that occurs inside their cult? Will they take heed from those of us that had to endure it and make changes? We also clear up the rumor of us being paid to talk!

  • Embark on an "encouragement trip" with our special guest, Craig Hoyle to the land down under as they try to fix him being gay! They eventually prescribe him a medication that is used for pedophiles. Craig gives us a firsthand account of a meal table experience sitting wedged between the PBCC leader Bruce D Hales and Tony McCorkell, a former PR manager for the church. Before the meal begins Craig counts 5 double Scotch Whiskeys consumed by Bruce and when the food arrives he switches to wine. When the meal is finished Bruce resumes drinking double scotches neat until time to leave to go to church for the evening service. Could it be the well-known leader of this cult also leads his flock in the vast consumption of alcohol that is so harmful to so many?

    Links to Craig's news stories-

    https://youtu.be/EXdxn1W_xk8

    https://youtu.be/_xqxTocjjOA

  • Imagine the strength of character instilled in this gentleman when at the age of 22 after being told he was of a reprobate mind our guest left the only life, family, and church he had ever known. Jim Clarkson described being ostracized, and isolated after priest’s lips failed to keep knowledge and he was condemned for the feelings he had and life choices he was about to make. Jim took us through his life- the shock and sorrow of being called to his dying mother’s bedside after 20+ years of separation, and yet the faith he has in an all loving, and forgiving God. It was a privilege to have Jim share his advice to any young person in a high control religious group- “seek out a support system.” Don’t settle in an unhappy life situation- surround yourself with people who care and seek to build you up.

  • Braden fills us in on the antics and activities of the PBCC in New Zealand over the past years. His humour helps us digest the ridiculous behaviors of the brethren's political affairs. He gives us his opinion on the alleged PBCC takedown of Justin Trudeau. He walks us through his struggles with mental health inside the PBCC and his visits to the brethren approved therapist Dr McPhillips who we find out took his own life. Braden explains the famous story of being told to drink cyanide or eat rat poison. Braden Simmons helps us dissect the RRT Charity set up by Bruce and his minions as a tax shelter and the salvation of the group’s charity tax status. When you strip off the PBCC façade and realize it’s nothing more than another antic to keep money in Bruce’s pockets you will share our disgust! We discuss the coercive control used on members in every aspect of their lives, the political deception hidden from many of the members and the new Strive 23 program the PBCC are launching in hopes of generating an extra 90 million dollars to line the already bursting church coffers.

  • We jump into the library of knowledge inside Jill Aebi-Mytton. She gives us an inside view to the history of growing up in the 40's and 50's in the Exclusive Brethren. She unpacks the myths of there being not much trauma in that generation and gives us a descriptive understanding of the power they used back then. She reveals her horror of why she asked to break bread. The importance of the PBCC history she shares, shows us how deep the implicit indoctrination affected that generation. Jill's journey into a psychology degree got her deep into the research of trauma that ex-members go through after leaving. She takes us though some of that research and we see through her very descriptive graphs the difference between the general population and an ex PBCC member. We get into a deep discussion on finding the right therapies and therapists. We are very curious as to what has worked for you and how did you get to a place of regulation after leaving? We are super excited to have Jill back on to discuss various therapies that have worked and what hasn't worked for ex-members. The link to her thesis is eprints.mdx.ac.uk/25914/

  • Special guest Peter Hart finds himself in the bullseye of Bruce Hales target after he asked a simple question in the meeting! It goes from bad to worse when he asked for and received permission from Bruce to build a new house and later Bruce denied having spoken to him! Though Peter still escaped the cult with his beliefs somewhat intact he looks back in disbelief at how corrupted the PBCC system has become! We discuss the horrific personal cost of losing his wife and children to this cultic group.

  • Dare to question translations of the Bible you are being taught! How deep has the doctrine of Bruce Hales gotten inside the PBCC? Do they choose the word of Bruce over the teachings of the Bible? Do they believe they are the only ones with special light while labelling themselves a Mainstream Christian Church? If King Lemual was not supposed to drink because he's a King and leader, how is it that Bruce Hales feels comfortable drinking excessively as leader of the PBCC group? The Bible tells a husband to love his wife as Christ loves his assembly-does that condone a husband tossing his wife down the stairs? Did you know that in Bruce Hales' eyes, if you're not prosperous-God is not with you?? Join our discussion with special guest Peter Hart as we breakdown some of the fallacy taught to PBCC members. Eye opening discussion is sure to keep you entertained!!

  • Anne Hamilton takes us through her heart wrenching story of her life that lead her into being excommunicated. Her love for her children exudes through the pain of being separated from them and is a true testimony of the importance of being vocal in this movement we are creating to give those left inside a landing pad. She is an inspiration of perseverance for every obstacle that was thrown her way. Tune in to hear her gift she made Bruce Hales to try and get a meeting with him and how she realized he wasn't really the Man of God. Anne has a book coming out that is bound to inspire us all to get up and get vocal. Link to Rebecca Stott's memoir In the Days of Rain- https://www.rebeccastott.co.uk/in-the-days-of-rain

  • Join Cheryl, Carman and Richard on New Year's Eve as they take us through the antics of the PBCC of 2022. We review from the beginning of the year how this Mainstream Christian Church is anything but MAINSTREAM. All links to the articles are listed on our Youtube channel so you can keep up with why we are fighting so hard for this to be exposed. In less than 2 hours, you will be astonished this group can even legally consider them a Christian Church and hold a charitable status. Richard even pulled out the JND Bible to show viewers how Stephen Harper's was actually a PBCC bible. He lets us in on the conversation that was had when he was inside regarding the gifting of this Bible to Stephen Harper.

    Youtube playlist of all PBCC and related podcasts- https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIJpvvPCk19Lj8H3mLaP-8piNjerudsZ2

    Feb 2 https://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2022-02-03c.499.3

    Feb 5 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/billions-in-covid-deals-given-to-firms-linked-to-plymouth-brethren-sect-8tlszvrh5

    Mar 23 https://toronto.citynews.ca/video/2022/03/23/veracity-breaking-brethren-documentary-preview/

    Mar 24 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-60848794

    Mar 30 https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/from-the-archives-1962-ex-adherents-say-sect-breaks-homes-20220323-p5a72h.html

    April 11 https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/128335966/abuse-in-care-gloriavale-included-in-faith-investigations-widened-scope

    April 22 https://www.ilkleygazette.co.uk/news/20083602.church-retail-club-plan-approved/

    May 11 https://pressprogress.ca/members-of-a-controversial-and-secretive-religious-sect-funded-third-party-group-behind-anti-trudeau-ads/

    May 18 https://pressprogress.ca/doug-fords-government-gave-oil-company-run-by-members-of-secretive-religious-sect-millions-of-dollars-for-face-masks/

    June 9 https://pressprogress.ca/manitoba-government-gave-50-million-to-companies-linked-to-secretive-religious-sect/

    June 17 https://pressprogress.ca/weve-reviewed-6400-pages-of-documents-called-the-klondike-papers-here-is-what-we-know-and-dont-know/

    June 18 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10709027/The-way-survive-surrender-decade-house-arrest-lifetime-control.html

    July 24 https://www.domain.com.au/news/exclusive-brethren-family-smash-epping-record-buying-7-5-million-house-1154304/

  • Join us and our special guest Jacky Hart as we discuss the Charity Commission and the time period when the PBCC lost their charitable tax status! Could it be that the doubleminded PBCC filed a report agreeing that families had the 100% right to decide whether or not to socialize with their ex-pb families? But then why would that not happen? Oh right? That’s because it’s not actually the truth!!

    Here is the link to the ‘Faith in Practice’ document that explains all the concerns the charities commission had with the brethren and what the brethren said they would do about it- https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/33611

  • We knew this story had to be told to inspire those marriages that get separated by the indoctrination of the PBCC. Ros show us that it is possible to break through the brainwashing of the PBCC when a spouse decides to leave or gets excommunicated. Join Ros as she recounts her attempts in leaving to rejoin her husband and how she finally got free. Listening to how she was labelled psychotic and had her children taken away is heart wrenching and shows how the gaslighting of the PBCC can make a mother question everything. Thankfully, Ros got some help from within the school and got free. Unfortunately, the person who helped her was suspended. We hear how much her child was bullied at the PBCC school and how free and happy her children are now. We hope this story really shows that ALL spouses can break free of the bondage the PBCC put on marriages when they want them to stay separated.

    Link to the news article that was written anonymously regarding Ros and her family- https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/mum-three-brainwashed-cult-who-17628561?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

  • OneSchool Global is the PBCC school system where 9000 students are educated according to the cult's "ethos". Not a single one of those students will attend university. (Even the Taliban allows some university attendance - but not the PBCC) Shockingly, many of these schools in Canada and Australia are government funded. Higher education is only one of Oneschool's problems. A culture of bullying is endemic to PBCC schools, and we release audio of a secretive cult broadcast called "Strive 23" in which an anti-bullying program is proposed. We also look at Oneschool from the perspective of teachers, who often have terrible experiences. When we look at online reviews for Oneschool on recruitment sites, the one observation that appears again and again is "Colleagues simply disappear overnight". Sounds more like a horror movie than a school - but take a listen and judge for yourself!

    Transcript link- https://tinyurl.com/Oneschoolbully

    Books referenced-

    On Having No Head - D.E Harding

    Waking Up - Sam Harris

    Cult Escape- John Spinks

    Article Links- https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265258/Probe-strict-Christian-sect-school-shut-girl-pupil-37-days-making-Facebook-page.html https://tinyurl.com/nhw5j2uu https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/12/1131907 Banned book list https://drive.google.com/file/d/17BHYCt1eADnZMqkjpPtExnVz61kyoPBg/view?usp=sharing

    Email info.getalife@proton.me for more info and to send your stories in.

    *Strive 23 recording Copyright by PBCC/UBT/Bible and Gospel Trust

  • Where there is Hope, there is Life and in this episode we have a lot of Hope happening. Join our 3 guests as we discuss 40 years of cultic abuse! Imagine the realization that a group that calls itself a church, so abusive and horrific that one must be partially drunk to sit through their meetings! Maple Creek, SK has been a PBCC group marked with hardline religious abuse, emotional abuse and has had constant huge losses of their young people. Could this be the key why? We hear Jen read a letter of her father's describing what he witnessed in his last 5 years of being in there, not ever being able to forget. Tracy recounts his parents being told that if he was dead- at least they would know where he is and Dennis informs us how Alan Drever had access to him. Our hearts break at the inaction of the past from the PBCC in Maple Creek and how they continue to turn a blind eye to the horrific abuse and generational trauma that happened. Together we bring Hope that this will change.

  • Tina Nystrom walks us through her families journey when they decided together to leave the PBCC. Tina has been extremely effective in holding the PBCC to account in Sweden. Numerous newspaper articles and TV programs have exposed the ugly mysogeny and homophobia that OneSchool Global has tried to hide from the Swedish public - taxpayers who are unwillingly funding this cult school - despite the fact that the PBCC businesses are extremely wealthy, and the brethren live in grand mansions in the most exclusive suburbs. Tina has accomplished all this on her own - with only about 700 brethren in Sweden, the number of ex-members is also very small. We salute her courage and invite her to join our international team of truth-tellers! We also hope her families success in gaining freedom inspires others inside to know they can walk away as a strong family unit.

    Link to articles- https://www.facebook.com/groups/348557787039157/permalink/618027146758885/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/348557787039157/permalink/618031100091823/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/348557787039157/permalink/617267953501471/

  • Join us and our special guest, Bradley McCallum as we walk through Brad’s attempts to leave the PBCC. To try to prevent Brad leaving, the PBCC followed him all the way to Hyde Park in London and confronted him- telling him he was mental. They flew him back home where a Brethren doctor injected him with powerful sedative drugs. He still has no idea what the medication was!! He takes us through what happened to his grandfather after he confronted JT JR being caught red handed in bed with another sister of the PBCC. This authentic recounting of Aberdeen fills in missing pieces that so many of us needed. A story so shocking and yet so typical of this cultic group it left us reeling!!

  • We sat down with Mike Kropveld from infosecte.org to discuss the help they can offer. Michael Kropveld is Founder and Executive Director of Info-Cult, based in Montreal, Canada. Since the founding of Info-Cult in 1980, Michael has assisted thousands of former members and members of “cults,” “new religious movements” and other groups as well as their families. He has served as an expert witness on cult-related criminal and civil cases and is consulted regularly by mental health professionals and law enforcement agencies. Mike offers us very useful guidance and insight into our goals and his humble and kind personality invites you into why he is so fervently dedicated to helping those that are suffering from groups that no longer serve them.

    Link to his website/charity- https://infosecte.org/en/home/

    Link to donations for the charity- https://infosecte.org/en/donation/

  • Join our special guests Dave & Nice’ Shorto as they share their inspirational journey leaving the PBCC. This beautiful couple kept their family including their 4 children intact and embarked on a new life journey. They left and joined a Christian church that embraced them with open arms. 40 years later they are still faithfully attending this church they now call family. Their story was so light and inspiring and they radiate such deep love for each other! David leaves you beaming from ear to ear as he exudes his love for humanity and desire to inspire those inside to know what true Christianity is all about.